Oh my Gawd, the Bashing on Archerytalk

Discussion in 'General Archery Forum' started by brainpower1, Apr 14, 2006.

  1. brainpower1

    brainpower1 Junior Member

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    Have any of you been on AT lately. There is nothing but bashing on that site. You have to read 10 threads to find anything of value.

    The constant bickering makes me sick. This place is like a breath of fresh air.
     
  2. JBUTLER

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  3. MoBowman

    MoBowman Senior Member

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    AT has really been going thru some growing pains lately. Hopefully they will get a hold of things soon, before it ruins the whole site. Believe me when I say, that as big as they are, it is not an easy job keeping up with everything that is going on. They probably need to add more staff members, but it's important to get the right folks, to continue to keep it fun without any heavy moderating.

    On the other hand, there are probably some that are there just to stir things up. Martin Archery has done an awesome job with that site and I'am sure that things will settle down pretty shortly.


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  4. BUNNYMAN

    BUNNYMAN I pray for you!

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    The only thing i go over there for is the classifieds, get some real good deals on used stuff. other than that not much else worth looking at......This however is the place to be I think. I just hope that this place does not turn into that, and I think Chris has that part just about covered. Keep up the good work guys......

    Dream Job.....Moderator on 3-D shoots.....now that would be awsome.:noidea: :laugh:
     
  5. two_shoes

    two_shoes YOU! Get in my belly!

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    Actually.......

    I was lucky enough to get some good info on string waxing. Of course I didn't mention my new Bowtech!!!!!!:tape:
     
  6. Chris

    Chris Administrator Staff Member

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    Ah.. yes with a site that size moderators are absolutely necessary. However, good moderators are hard to come by.

    Dreamjob, I don't know about that, but it is fun.:peace:

    I have goals and aspirations for this site. I love hearing everyones ideas on how we can improve. Some ideas I take and some I leave but I listen to them all.

    I try to give everyone want they want and that is a good site to visit, share experiences and hopefully learn some things about our great sport of archery.
     
  7. BowhuntnHoosier

    BowhuntnHoosier Bisquit.......

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    AT is losing it

    MoBowman, excellent post my friend.:peace: I agree that they do want to bash alot over there but, I have found some good reading over there as well. I also like it here much better:rockon: I told a friend of mine about this place and he said we we too slow and not enough members hitting the site daily. I said thats one thing that is nice you do not have all the trouble makers over here as on AT. I would like to see us grow but not with members with bad attitudes. I think Chris does a fine job here and I would like to thank him for his hard work. As for Adam being a Mod. only if he wises up and puts a WB on his SB and hunts with it. :biggrin1: J/K Thanks again to everyone for making this site so good.:hug:
     
  8. Chris

    Chris Administrator Staff Member

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    The nice thing is we are growing daily and traffic is increasing. It is exponential so the more we grow, the faster we grow.
     
  9. Pinwheel1969

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    Oh my Gawed, The bashing on Archerytalk

    Yeah Its been getting worse lately. It seems with competition of bows getting closer to each other with specs. is rising tempers in the crowed. Have noticed an over populated posts of Bowtech haters out there. There are alot of pure believers in there bows manufacturers. And everything else is junk. I got into a few heated battles a few months ago about a topic as such. A few guys tried to say Mathews was the best. And another said Hoyt. I asked what makes them better than the rest. They said "because they are." So you have no proof ? Then they came back to say. look how many tourneys they won. Then I laughed. If bows were that far aprt in quality. You wouldnt see pro's jumping from manufaturer to the other. The bows are part of the equation. But the shooter is the big part.
    I shoot competative archery. I have shot all brands. None actually make me shoot better. Some feel better. but, I couldnt pick up a bow set it up and shoot a perfect score on the 3d range. Nor, could I shoot 20 rounds of spots w/ 60X. That started a war. LOL!!!!
    I dont post much there any more!!! you cant give any help to someone with out roid rage coming out from another person!!
     
  10. Chris

    Chris Administrator Staff Member

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    It's not the bow, its the archer. You can give a pro a 15yr old piece of crap bow and he still going to beat you on a 3D course.
     
  11. Pinwheel1969

    Pinwheel1969 #1 THREAD KILLER

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    Oh my Gawed, The bashing on Archerytalk

    you got that right chris!!!!
    some people will never learn!!!
     
  12. glenny

    glenny Senior Member

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    You realized that? huh.

    I haven't seen any bashing,slamming,ridiculing,nocking,mocking,taunting,deriding,beligerent,hostile or provocative actions on there at all....
     
  13. Allen

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    Everyone is 100% correct. AT currently has a lot of posting that I'm not interested in reading. While you can get an answer to nearly any archery question, unfortunately, there is a lot of bad information.

    Fortunately, there is still the search feature. If you want information, you can get it from some of the top archers in the sport. The information may be a couple of years old, but it is mostly still valid.
     
  14. two_shoes

    two_shoes YOU! Get in my belly!

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    No good info on AT???

    Hey guys,

    Look at the info I got. I even said I have a Bowtech. http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=317213 Don't get me wrong, this is a fantastic site (3Dshoots) and I have gotten fantastic info here too. There is alot of brand die-hards but I stay away from that... you can usually see it coming too.
    Thanks to everyone in the archery community that is willing to share and help!

    -Judson (aka Two_shoes)
     
  15. Chris

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    I don't understand the bow bashing. The "my bow is better than your bow". I'll believe this the first time I see a bow walk up to the stake, load and arrow and shoot by itself!:loco:

    It's the shooter people, not the bow. Let's take an average archer and hand them a perfectly setup "high end bow" (no names here). Then give a pro archer a 15 yr old piece of crap with a few pins on it. Let the competition begin.

    I'll place my money on the pro all day every day.
     
  16. AZarcher

    AZarcher Junior Member

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    Interesting???
    Bow bashing over there, Forum bashing over here.
    My forum is better than your forum, see the irony.
    There are good eggs and bad eggs where ever you go, if AT isn't such a good place why is everyone trying to copy there success. look I get just as irrated by some of the yahoos over there but guess what people are people and when people get together they are going to irrate one another sooner or later think about the last time you had to spend a whole day with your family or even better your inlaws. lol
    love the sight but it is a little slow for anyone with a 4 grade reading level or better.
     
  17. MoBowman

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    Well AZarcher, I don't think I have read anyone really doing any forum bashing on this thread, until I read your last comment.:noidea: All I have seen is general conversation about another site. But I don't think anyone has really bashed AT. I'am trying to figure where your remarks are coming from.


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  18. j3dGuam

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    Way too much ego being thrown around AT latedly, I try to avoid being sucked into debates on which brand is "really better" or how many years of experience this guy has over the next guy. I appreciate all the great info that the site has as well as all other forums I visit.
     
  19. BUNNYMAN

    BUNNYMAN I pray for you!

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    Wey 2 go on your 1st coople of post's, know we hav the reeding, riting and arithmatic, skills of a 10 yr. old. thanx budddy, we appreciate all them kinde wurds:biggrin1: :laugh:
     
  20. NE1C_my_arrow

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    I know this is only my second post, and coming from a newbie as well I'm going to apologize in advance for my long windedness... :biggrin1:

    I'm a memeber over at AT as well as here, and a new member at that.. I've only been over there a few days and I've seen all the M4L talk that goes on. While I'm new to these two forums in particular (here and AT), I'm not new to forums in general. There are certain things that you have to understand when going into a forum.. Any forum for that matter, whether it be about bows, cars, guitars or (insert your favorite whatever here) there are always going to be people that don't like what that forum is about or even the fact that they aren't in the "clique". And believe me, at ANY forum on the net there is always a "clique". Not saying this in a derogatory manner, I'm just saying that there is always a core membership that carry more weight or more influence and it's usually the guys/gals that have been there the longest, have the coolest stuff, or might be better or more respected, etc... Anyway, my take on forums in general is this:

    #1: Forums are created to bring like minded people together. In the case of AT (from what I've gathered anyway), Martin bows is the owner and/or operator of the forum. While they promote "Archers helping Archers" and I wholeheartedly agree they are doing this, you have to understand that because it's a "corporate" sponsored website that there is going to be an undercurrent of Martin influence there. No way of getting around it. From what I've seen in my short time there, they do not bash any other bow makers but you have to understand that it's Martin's playhouse so it's to be expected that the guys shooting Martins are going to be a little more outspoken about their bow of choice in their own backyard.

    #2: As was said earlier in the thread, there will always be that small section of the population that are there just to start trouble. The correct internet/forum term for these people are "Trolls". Such as the fellow that was PM'ing all the M4L folks and talking smack under an assumed username (if anyone was aware of that). Why do these people do this?? Who knows but it's a fact of life at nearly every larger forum I've even been to.

    #3: Forum size has alot to do with it.. Also, as was stated earlier.. AT is a honkin' HUGE forum and with that many people there are bound to be problems. From what I've seen so far, AT is handled in a very commendable manner by the Admins, Mods, and whomever else is in charge of that place. Dealing with that many people on a daily basis is a headache that I'd glady decline to have to mess with.

    Anyway, I'll cut it off there.. Sorry for the long winded post but the way I see it is like this. You have to choice to either look at a thread, or pass it by. If you choose to look, and you don't agree with what's going on.. You then have the choice to voice your opinion or stay out of it. I've learned form past experiences, that if you're not being called out directly it's better to just keep your mouth shut.

    So basically, in closing what all this mumbo-jumbo I'm trying to say is this. If these guys want to be M4L, then let them be.. After all, it is Martin's site and do you really think than anyone is going to be able to go in there and convince the powers that be that their non-Martin bow is better than theirs? Highly doubtful. Just take that site for what it is, gain whatever knowledge you can while your there and have fun. No need to stress over the bashing and whatnot, it's really not that important in the grand scheme of things.

    With that, I'll shut up now and leave you guys alone for a while.. :biggrin1: