Please Help...

Discussion in 'Bowhunting forum' started by Ellothar121, Nov 24, 2006.

  1. Ellothar121

    Ellothar121 Junior Member

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    After watching my brother hunt a few times, I'm trying to take up archery. I've already tried a recurve, and am alright with it, but want to use compounds. If you want to help, please remember while editing this that I'm 13 and 5' 8.5" :)
    This is my list, if you know of any more efficient items, less costly duplicates, or other essentials, it would be much appreciated if you'd post here and notify me. My goal is to get this below or closer to $800-$900.

    Core
    Bow) Parker BuckHunter Compound Bow & Outfitter Package ($369.95)
    Bow Case) Anything (</=$99.99)
    Quiver) Anything (</= $19.99)
    Arrows) 28" Carbon Arrows (x3) ($8.97)
    Broadheads) Woodsman Broadheads 150gr Screw-In 6-Pack ($27.99)
    Armguard) Anything (</= $19.99)
    Deer Grunt Call) Anything (</=$19.99)
    Mechanical Release) Anything (</=$19.99)
    [$590]

    Clothing
    Base
    Shirt) UnderArmor Brushed ColdGear Mock (Mossy Oak Coloring-- Size LG) ($59.99)
    Pants) UnderArmor Brushed ColdGear Leggings (Mossy Oak Coloring -- Size LG) ($64.99)

    Outer Gear
    Jacket) Scent-Lok Full Season Bowhunter Jacket ($139.95)
    Pants) Scent-Lok Full Season Six Pocket Pants ($119.95)

    Shoes
    Hiking/Mountain Boots) Cabela's Silent Stalk GORE-TEX/SCENT-LOK Fabric Boots ($99.95)
    [$485]

    Accessories
    Tree Stand) Lone Wolf Alpha Assault ($189.99)
    Optics) Nikon 440 ProStaff 8x20 Rangefinder ($199.99)
    Deer Call) Anything (</= $19.99)
    [$410]

    {$1,485}

    Thank you in advance!
    ~Ellothar
     
  2. pdq 5oh

    pdq 5oh Member

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    Get some decent binos. You won't believe how much more you can see using them. Especially in low light.
     

  3. Ellothar121

    Ellothar121 Junior Member

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    Do you think a Nikon 8x40 ($68.89) set of bino's is good?

    Thank you!
     
  4. brokenarrow

    brokenarrow Evil Genius

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    Welcome to the forum. I can give you my opinion, but archery is a greatly custom sport. Everyone's wants, needs, and likes are different. All you can do is test stuff out, touch as much stuff as you can.
    Core
    Bow) Parker BuckHunter Compound Bow & Outfitter Package ($369.95)
    Bow Case) Anything (</=$99.99)
    I use a Plano case $24.99 got it on sale for $19.99
    Quiver) Anything (</= $19.99)
    What kind of quiver? I use a hip quiver (Kodiak) it was around $20, Bow mnt. quivers can be cheaper
    Arrows) 28" Carbon Arrows (x3) ($8.97)
    Broadheads) Woodsman Broadheads 150gr Screw-In 6-Pack ($27.99)
    Armguard) Anything (</= $19.99)
    You can get arm guards for under $10 depends on your preference, Once you've been shooting a while you may not even use it.
    Deer Grunt Call) Anything (</=$19.99)
    This time of year Dick's clears out their inventory so alot of their calls are dirt cheap, But selection sucks. Primos is a good call.
    Mechanical Release) Anything (</=$19.99)
    Don't "chince" on your release. You will enjoy shooting more with a good one. Tru-Ball makes some good ones in the $20-$60 range
    [$590]

    Clothing
    Base
    Shirt) UnderArmor Brushed ColdGear Mock (Mossy Oak Coloring-- Size LG) ($59.99)
    Pants) UnderArmor Brushed ColdGear Leggings (Mossy Oak Coloring -- Size LG) ($64.99)

    Outer Gear
    Jacket) Scent-Lok Full Season Bowhunter Jacket ($139.95)
    Pants) Scent-Lok Full Season Six Pocket Pants ($119.95)

    Shoes
    Hiking/Mountain Boots) Cabela's Silent Stalk GORE-TEX/SCENT-LOK Fabric Boots ($99.95)
    [$485]

    Accessories
    Tree Stand) Lone Wolf Alpha Assault ($189.99)
    Optics) Nikon 440 ProStaff 8x20 Rangefinder ($199.99)
    Good range finder. I use one.
    Deer Call) Anything (</= $19.99)
    Look for end of season sales...Everyone's opinion is different...But your first call definately won't be the last one you buy I buy new stuff every year...
    [$410]

    {$1,485}

    Thank you in advance!
    ~Ellothar
     
  5. brokenarrow

    brokenarrow Evil Genius

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    The Nikon 440 rangefinder has an 8X lens. Alot of times I won't bring my bino's in the feild to hunt. I use them mainly to scout.
     
  6. Ellothar121

    Ellothar121 Junior Member

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    Thanks for your input! As it stands, this is what my list is:

    Core
    Bow) Parker BuckHunter Compound Bow & Outfitter Package ($369.95)
    Bow Case) Plano Case ($24.99)
    Quiver) Anything (</= $19.99) I'm still wavering between hip quiver or bow mount quiver...
    Arrows) 28" Carbon Arrows (x3) ($8.97)
    Broadheads) Woodsman Broadheads 150gr Screw-In 6-Pack ($27.99)
    Armguard) Anything (</= $9.99)
    Mechanical Release) Tru-Ball(?) ($20-$60)
    Deer Grunt Call) ----- (Just Realized that I have Deer Call Under Accessories!)
    [$482-$522]

    Clothing
    Base
    Shirt) UnderArmor Brushed ColdGear Mock (Mossy Oak Coloring-- Size LG) ($59.99)
    Pants) UnderArmor Brushed ColdGear Leggings (Mossy Oak Coloring -- Size LG) ($64.99)

    Outer Gear
    Jacket) Scent-Lok Full Season Bowhunter Jacket ($139.95)
    Pants) Scent-Lok Full Season Six Pocket Pants ($119.95)

    Shoes
    Hiking/Mountain Boots) Cabela's Silent Stalk GORE-TEX/SCENT-LOK Fabric Boots ($99.95)
    [$485]

    Accessories
    Tree Stand) Lone Wolf Alpha Assault ($189.99)
    Optics) Nikon 440 ProStaff 8x20 Rangefinder ($199.99)
    Deer Grunt Call) Anything (</=$19.99) (Primos?)
    Bow Holder) EZ Hanger 3-Arm Multi Purpose Bow Holder ($14.99)
    [$425]

    {$1,392} <---> {$1,432}


    Do I need urine/drags or decoys? What about antlers?

    And brokenarrow, when you said that the rangefinder has 8x lens, do you mean I don't need another set of bino's?

    Thanks again!
     
    Last edited: Nov 25, 2006
  7. brokenarrow

    brokenarrow Evil Genius

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    I carry a rattle bag, it cost like $10. A 3 pack of Tink's scent bombs is like $6. Scents can go from $5-$50. I like Tink's 69. I don't use a drag. Scent control can get expensive it depending on the system you use(hunter spec., Dead Down Wind...). I don't use decoys but I have friends that do with mixed results... That's something you can add later.

    As far as bino's, it pays to have a good set for scouting or if you hunt wide open areas. But if you hunt heavy cover, use your rangefinder. It's 1 less thing to carry. I also bought a spotting scope for scouting now I really only use my bino's for 3D.
     
  8. Ellothar121

    Ellothar121 Junior Member

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    Thanks again ^.^
    All the items you've posted are the best one's I've seen (Google's been evil lately.)

    To Answer Your Question, yes, the outfitter package does include a sight. I'm not sure of the quality of it, but if you could tell me, I've uploaded a picture here

    Core
    Bow) Parker BuckHunter Compound Bow & Outfitter Package ($369.95)
    Stabilizer) Sims Limbsaver S-Coil Stabilizer Black ($17.99)
    Sling) CR Braided Wrist Sling Hunter Green/Black/Light Brown ($8.99)

    Bow Case) Plano Hard Bow Case Black ($29.99)
    Quiver) Anything (</= $19.99) I'm still wavering between hip quiver or bow mount quiver...
    Arrows) 28" Carbon Arrows (x3) ($8.97)
    Broadheads) Woodsman Broadheads 150gr Screw-In 6-Pack ($27.99)
    Armguard) Anything (</= $9.99)
    Mechanical Release) Cobra Green Mamba R2 Release ($49.99)
    Deer Grunt Call) ----- (Just Realized that I have Deer Call Under Accessories!)
    [$535]

    Clothing
    Base
    Shirt) UnderArmor Brushed ColdGear Mock (Mossy Oak Coloring-- Size LG) ($59.99)
    Pants) UnderArmor Brushed ColdGear Leggings (Mossy Oak Coloring -- Size LG) ($64.99)

    Outer Gear
    Jacket) Scent-Lok Full Season Bowhunter Jacket ($139.95)
    Pants) Scent-Lok Full Season Six Pocket Pants ($119.95)

    Shoes
    Hiking/Mountain Boots) Cabela's Silent Stalk GORE-TEX/SCENT-LOK Fabric Boots ($99.95)
    [$485]

    Accessories
    Tree Stand) Lone Wolf Alpha Assault ($189.99)
    Optics) Nikon 440 ProStaff 8x20 Rangefinder ($199.99)
    Deer Grunt Call) Primos Magnum Trophy Grunter ($9.99)
    Bow Holder) EZ Hanger 3-Arm Multi Purpose Bow Holder ($14.99)
    Rattle) Knight & Hale Ultimate Rattle Bag Small ($10.99)
    Estrus Bleat) Primos Easy Estrus Bleat Can ($7.99)
    [$434]

    {$1,454}
     
    Last edited: Nov 25, 2006
  9. shaft

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    Here's something else-won't change the price any but 150gr broadheads are pretty heavy. Most go with 75-125gr with 100gr probably being the most popular.
     
  10. Ellothar121

    Ellothar121 Junior Member

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    Okay, thanks! Added in a Quiver that I thought was kind of nice, changed to 100gr broadheads, and added links!
     
    Last edited: Nov 25, 2006
  11. BUNNYMAN

    BUNNYMAN I pray for you!

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    you can save a few dollars by looking into the Moosy oak APX line of base layers.....I have them and love them......

    I will go look for a link.....but I got mine for 39.99top and 39.99 bottem plus had a spend 50 dollars get $10 off gift certificate at GM....

    here is the link

    http://www.mossyoakapparel.com/view...duct_category_id--110/request_apx_type_id--30

    look around on the site the have different layers, with and w/o scent stopper......
     
    Last edited: Nov 25, 2006
  12. Ellothar121

    Ellothar121 Junior Member

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    Okay, Thanks! I found it for $28.99 at Ye Olde Archery Shoppe! Saved... Somewhere around $70, I think! thanks ^^


    Core
    Bow) Parker BuckHunter Compound Bow & Outfitter Package ($369.95)
    Stabilizer) Sims Limbsaver S-Coil Stabilizer Black ($17.99)
    Sling) CR Braided Wrist Sling Hunter Green/Black/Light Brown ($8.99)
    Bow Case) Plano Hard Bow Case Black ($29.99)
    Quiver)Allen Broadhead Hip Quiver Break-Up Camo ($17.99)
    Arrows) 28" Carbon Arrows (x3) ($8.97)
    Broadheads) Allen Power Point Three Blade Camo 100 Gr. Broadhead 3 Pack ($12.99)
    Armguard) Anything (</= $9.99)
    Release) Cobra Green Mamba R2 Release ($49.99)
    Deer Grunt Call) ----- (Just Realized that I have Deer Call Under Accessories!)
    [$527]

    Clothing
    Base
    Shirt) Mossy Oak APX Scent-Stop Expedition Weight Top ($34.99)
    Pants) Mossy Oak APX Scent-Stop Expedition Weight Bottom ($34.99)

    Outer Gear
    Jacket) Scent-Lok Full Season Bowhunter Jacket ($139.95)
    Pants) Scent-Lok Full Season Six Pocket Pants ($119.95)

    Shoes
    Hiking/Mountain Boots) Cabela's Silent Stalk GORE-TEX/SCENT-LOK Fabric Boots ($99.95)
    [$430]

    Accessories
    Tree Stand) Lone Wolf Alpha Assault ($189.99)
    Optics) Nikon 440 ProStaff 8x20 Rangefinder ($199.99)
    Deer Grunt Call) Primos Magnum Trophy Grunter ($9.99)
    Bow Holder) EZ Hanger 3-Arm Multi Purpose Bow Holder ($14.99)
    Rattle) Knight & Hale Ultimate Rattle Bag Small ($10.99)
    Estrus Bleat) Primos Easy Estrus Bleat Can ($7.99)
    [$434]

    {$1391}

    Can I switch these out for the Scent-Lok outerwear?
    http://www.yeoldearcheryshoppe.com/scent-blocker-protec-jacket-p-3901.html
    http://www.yeoldearcheryshoppe.com/scent-blocker-protec-pant-p-3902.html

    EDITED: Switched Base!
     
    Last edited: Nov 25, 2006
  13. BUNNYMAN

    BUNNYMAN I pray for you!

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    go w/the expidition weight its only a couple bucks more and it will work longer in the season.....ie be warmer when the cool weather sets in....
     
  14. Ellothar121

    Ellothar121 Junior Member

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    Okay, Thanks! Having an aerosol can of scent-retardant on hand is a good idea as well, right?

    Is it better to have buck scents or doe scents?
     
  15. brokenarrow

    brokenarrow Evil Genius

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    Looking at the bow, it has a sling on it so you wont need that the sight should be fine to start with you can always upgrade...it also looks like it comes w/ a wisker biscuit(which is the finest hunting rest ever made IMHO)
    so I would say just a stabilizer and maybe some limbsavers (I didn't see them on the bow but I did see string leeches)

    I was also gonna say something about those broadheads but I see someone else did..
     
  16. brokenarrow

    brokenarrow Evil Genius

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  17. BUNNYMAN

    BUNNYMAN I pray for you!

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  18. Ellothar121

    Ellothar121 Junior Member

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    I took off the sling, and changed the prices.

    Also, I don't think I made the arrow prices clear. The Gander Mountain around here sells carbon arrows for $2.99 apiece. I'm buying 3, so it comes to $8.97. Are these good, or should I switch to those maximas? Do you think I need more? I can go up to 1/2 dozen.

    Also, Having an aerosol can of scent-retardant on hand is a good idea as well, right? And is it better to have buck scents or doe scents, or should I get both? Is Gel better, that scent bomb thing better, or urine/estrous?


    Core
    Bow) Parker BuckHunter Compound Bow & Outfitter Package ($369.95)
    Stabilizer) Sims Limbsaver S-Coil Stabilizer Black ($17.99)
    Bow Case) Plano Hard Bow Case Black ($29.99)
    Quiver)Allen Broadhead Hip Quiver Break-Up Camo ($17.99)
    Arrows) 28" Carbon Arrows (x3) ($8.97)
    Broadheads) Allen Power Point Three Blade Camo 100 Gr. Broadhead 3 Pack ($12.99)
    Armguard) Anything (</= $9.99)
    Release) Cobra Green Mamba R2 Release ($49.99)
    Deer Grunt Call) ----- (Just Realized that I have Deer Call Under Accessories!)
    [$518]

    Clothing
    Base
    Shirt) Mossy Oak APX Scent-Stop Expedition Weight Top ($34.99)
    Pants) Mossy Oak APX Scent-Stop Expedition Weight Bottom ($34.99)

    Outer Gear
    Jacket) Scent-Lok Full Season Bowhunter Jacket ($139.95)
    Pants) Scent-Lok Full Season Six Pocket Pants ($119.95)

    Shoes
    Hiking/Mountain Boots) Cabela's Silent Stalk GORE-TEX/SCENT-LOK Fabric Boots ($99.95)
    [$430]

    Accessories
    Tree Stand) Lone Wolf Alpha Assault ($189.99)
    Optics) Nikon 440 ProStaff 8x20 Rangefinder ($199.99)
    Deer Grunt Call) Primos Magnum Trophy Grunter ($9.99)
    Bow Holder) EZ Hanger 3-Arm Multi Purpose Bow Holder ($14.99)
    Rattle) Knight & Hale Ultimate Rattle Bag Small ($10.99)
    Estrus Bleat) Primos Easy Estrus Bleat Can ($7.99)
    [$434]

    {$1382}

    Can I switch these out for the Scent-Lok outerwear?
    http://www.yeoldearcheryshoppe.com/scent-blocker-protec-jacket-p-3901.html
    http://www.yeoldearcheryshoppe.com/scent-blocker-protec-pant-p-3902.html

    EDITED: Switched Base!
     
  19. BUNNYMAN

    BUNNYMAN I pray for you!

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    I dont think you should consentrate so much on getting into scents right now....I dont know how long your season is but I always like to buy scents fresh each year if possible.....sometimes I may not use any.....more important is to get your bow and get shooting.....you can get these other items in dribs and drabs....like I have.....over the years I have bought things here and there....


    I dont think you can buy everything you will need....there is always something to buy.....

    As far as arrows go I never buy cheap arrows anymore....just not worth the money you may save....if its just to get shooting then fine....but you will upgrade eventallly....