remember when we vote for change

Discussion in 'Offtopic' started by Holy Smokes, May 21, 2008.

  1. Holy Smokes

    Holy Smokes Senior Member

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    Here it is what we voted for in 2006


    Part 1:

    In just one year... Remember the election in 2006?

    Thought you might like to read the following. A little over one year ago:

    1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
    2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
    3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.

    Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:

    1) Consumer confidence plummet;
    2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3.50 a gallon;
    3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
    4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
    5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;
    6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.

    America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!

    Remember it's Congress that makes law not the President. He has to work with what's handed to him.



    Quote of the Day........"My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it." -- Barack Obama





    Part 2:

    Taxes...Whether Democrat or a Republican you will find these statistics enlightening and amazing.
    www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/151.html


    Taxes under Clinton 1999 Taxes under Bush 2008
    Single making 30K - tax $8,400 Single making 30K - tax $4,500
    Single making 50K - tax $14,000 Single making 50K - tax $12,500
    Single making 75K - tax $23,250 Single making 75K - tax $18,750
    Married making 60K - tax $16,800 Married making 60K- tax $9,000
    Married making 75K - tax $21,000 Married making 75K - tax $18,750
    Married making 125K - tax $38,750 Married making 125K - tax $31,250

    Both democratic candidates will return to the higher tax rates.



    It is amazing how many people that fall into the categories above think Bush is screwing them and Bill Clinton was the greatest President ever. If Obama or Hillary are elected, they both say they will repeal the Bush tax cuts and a good portion of the people that fall into the categories above can't wait for it to happen. This is like the movie The Sting with Paul Newman; you scam somebody out of some money and they don't even know what happened.




    PART 3:


    You think the war in Iraq is costing us too much?



    Read this:
    Boy am I confused. I have been hammered with the propaganda that it is the Iraq war and the war on terror that is bankrupting us. I now find that to be RIDICULOUS. I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts:

    1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments.

    Verify at: http://tinyurl.com/zob77
    2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.

    Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
    3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.

    Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
    4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!

    Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html
    5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.

    Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
    6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.

    Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
    7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.

    Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
    8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.

    Verify at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html
    9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.

    Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
    10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US.

    Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt..01.html
    11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S. from the Southern border.

    Verify at: Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl.com/t9sht
    12. The National Policy Institute, estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.

    Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf
    13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin.

    Verify at: http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm
    14. The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States.

    Verify at: http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

    The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.



    Are we THAT stupid?



    If this doesn't bother you then just delete the message. If, on the other hand, if it does raise the hair on the back of your neck, I hope you forward it to every legal resident in the country including every representative in Washington, D.C. - five times a week for as long as it takes to restore some semblance of intelligence in our policies and
    Now who wants some more good ol change.
     
  2. Hook Em

    Hook Em Slippy for President

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    Yes...unfortunately a large portion of this population is THAT stupid. I don't understand it myself, but it is true. Maybe there should be an IQ test performed at the polls that you must pass in order to be able to cast a vote.
     

  3. Holy Smokes

    Holy Smokes Senior Member

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    Hook to be honest with you
    i would much rather vote for somebody like you that would do us right than for that bunch we have now
     
  4. Cerradura

    Cerradura New Member

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    reading that made me sad
     
  5. J.A.G.

    J.A.G. Senior Member

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    amen to that. wish people would choose to remember that when they vote for their Senators and Representatives.. Its not like the "people" actually decide who becomes President, the super-delegates do.
     
  6. BUNNYMAN

    BUNNYMAN I pray for you!

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    I love the people that blame everything on George W., I dont care for the guy one way or the other, but to blame all the worlds problems on him, shows ignorance......:noidea:
     
  7. TEN RING

    TEN RING ONE SHOT ONE KILL

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    Did't clinton has a republican congress & house :dizzy:
     
  8. BUNNYMAN

    BUNNYMAN I pray for you!

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    yup and what did he do for us.......oh thats right now, "salami" for breakfast lunch and dinner isnt that bad, as long as its not your wife "doing the chewing".......
     
  9. MoSkeeter0311

    MoSkeeter0311 New Member

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    If I remember right I don't believe he did. With all the democrat bashing here we must also understand that even 'tho the democrats are a majority they are a simple majority. When talking about taxes we also must take into consideration what McCains is proposing where the majority of the benefits, mainly medical coverage, will be considerered as taxable income. I'm refering to company supplied medical coverage. IMHO anyone that says he/she is a Democrat or a Republican is being foolish. I vote for a person and their past record. There is no longer a political platform as there was before. They are all bought and paid for thru Large Companies and are controlled by lobbiests. We need to get our heads out of our a*** and start voting for people and quit this democrat vs republican bullcrap. Go on line and go to the congessional sites and look at how these people voted on certain bills and see what the bills contained as for as "special interests". then make up your own mind as to why the individual voted Yay or nay on it. When we can cross over this political party bullcrap and start voting for individuals instead of political parties we'll all be better off. The trouble with congress is there is to much voting along party lines and for special interest groups. When you watch congress on TV it is just a bunch of "ditto-heads" voting yes or no on a bill because of "who" introduced it and not on the bills own merits. I AM NOT A LIBERAL NOR A CONSERVATIVE, I AM A MODERATE.:mad: :mad: :mad:
     
  10. J.A.G.

    J.A.G. Senior Member

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    well said.
     
  11. Chris

    Chris Administrator Staff Member

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    I hate to say it but the candidates thoughts on Iraq will not be a major decision in my voting.

    Economy and Illegal Immigration are the big ones for me.
     
  12. pred8er

    pred8er He who eats fuzzy animals

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    All three are liberals when it comes to gun control and personal rights and liberties.:frusty:

    I have never been too big on social programs either, too close to a socialist state. We are already nearing a military state with entities like "homeland security" (kind of sounds like a program right out of WWII Nazi Germany).:mad: :mad: :mad:
     
  13. SinGin

    SinGin Banned

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    So which one of the three are going to do something about those? I think I'll vote for the Green party this year. I don't want to be responsible for putting any of the three in office.
     
  14. SinGin

    SinGin Banned

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    Oh, and 2.19 for a gallon of gas is not a great deal.
     
  15. pred8er

    pred8er He who eats fuzzy animals

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    I hate to be the one to say this, but if you don't vote for one of the primary candidates, you have in effect put one in office. You have taken a vote away from the "lesser of two evils" and given it to someone who will, in all probability, not recieve anywhere near enough votes to even be viable. Sorry, but I think it's the truth.:frusty:
     
  16. MoSkeeter0311

    MoSkeeter0311 New Member

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    AS the old/new adage goes.

    As a child, when I was growing up, Fairy Tales once started with "Once upon a time" now as I've grown older they start with "If I am Elected"........