Well I went down to the shop to in my mind get a mojo!! then my buddy showed me the new X-force that came in. of course i had to shoot it. Lets just say all the the rants on how its going to shoot like crap has been answered to me. I'm going to be shooting one for 3d this year. Of course I'll have to find a way to tame 'er down. I was shooting it w/ 410 grn radial x-weave pros, 28" draw at 60 lbs. and crono'd it at 304fps. It also was very quiet and had virtually no shock!! and had no issues w/ it hitting my arm. Now just have to see if I can get PSE to make me a target color one!!!