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Discussion in 'Beginners Archery Range' started by rusty, Jul 28, 2004.
Would like any help for any exercises for estimation yardage for 3D shoots.
Rusty, I am no expert on 3-D.
I struggle with yardage estimation myself in 3-D shoots. Here is what I have learned from some good shooters.
First, they all use a different techniques. All said that you build your own technique as you practice.
Some said they can spot the "20 Yard" mark in a shooting lane very easily. Then they focus on the remaining yardage.
Some said they look for the mid way point to the target and then double that.
I am looking forward to some tips on estimating yardage myself.
What I do: I have learned what 20 yrds and 5 yrds look like. The first thing I do is find my 20, then work 5 yrds at a time to the target. Next, I cut the distance in half. I see where the half way point is compared to my 20. I will also work backwards from the target to myself. The biggest thing to remember is to be smarter than the target. What I mean is if you are completly stumped, make an educated guess, and believe in what you guess. Practice works best with a range finder. It helps to know what the real yardage is. Good luck, Jeff
THX Jeff....this answers a question I was intending to ask!
Our club has 3-D targets set up all year. There are no stakes so you can shoot from wherever you wish. This has been a very good learning tool for me and a bunch others.
We sorta play a game when we shoot the course. We rotate shooters and let the first shooter pick the spot everyone else shoots from. All that said...
The last time we shot, I had an idea of using a range finder "after" everyone had shot to see if we had been close in estimating the yardage. Thus if we had a poor shot, we could see if it was a poor shot, or, a misjudgement of distance.
Since range finders aren't allowed on a competition course, I thought it would be nice to verify what went on during the practice rounds. Even tho I only have an optical range finder, I see that I misjudge alot on the 30 yard plus targets.
I had the opportunity to shoot several times with a gentleman, Butch Hall, and he has been a big help to me. He uses a double check system for judging yardage. He uses a system much like your's Jeff. He also stated to be confident about your decision.
On a side note. Can someone recommend a fairly priced range finder for 3-D practice and general hunting?
THX in advance,
Bushnell and Nikon both make an excellent product, for a good price.
It's real handy to check your yardage post shot when you practice. After a while you can usually get within 3 - 4 yds, half that for the close shots.
Bushnell yardage pro sport. I think it's about the cheapest you can buy, and it's plenty accurate enough for archery ranges. It seems that most of the higher end range finders are more accurate out past 400 or so yards.
I estimate in 10 yd incraments from target back and could only wish I was as good at my shooting.I shoot 10yds. in my basement off season and priodically through the season to keep brushed up on yardage and form this guestimating works great for me.Pick a distance and shoot it shoot it shoot it!The distance sinks in.give er a try hope it works and good luck!
Why are the range finders expecially laser, good to 400 yards. Can't they just make an inexpensive 100 yards or so... I don't intend to shoot over that much and my checkbook can't handle the upper end prices. I do like opti-logics range finders though.
before I could afford a range finder I took a deer target to the football feild just to see how it looked. worked good if your hunting deer around the same size as the target. If its a big deer it looks closer though.
Very good point, I never focus on the target as they come in all shapes and sizes and can miss lead you. Pick something as close as you can to the target that you are more familiar with, like a tree, rock, or even the ground.
yardage is by far the determination in 3d shooting. I shoot competative 3d in ASA. I have had problems with yardage's in the past. I talked to a few pro's that I ran into at A National ASA shoot in Pennsylvania. He said to get a rope thats 5 yards long and tie a ball to it. Then tie it to your leg. When ever your out side. toss it around at different scenery. in the woods, open fields, hilly area, up and down hill. once you can determin what 5 yards look like. you can judge better. going to long on your rope will throw you off. 5 yards is much easier to judge than ten or 20. I have done this for 5 months now and can effectivly judge yardage to 40 yds. Has greatly helped my scoring.
My personal favorite is the Nikon 440.. it is accurate to the 1/2 yard, extremely clear and my favorite part - it magnifies to 8x if needed. This has been a tremendous help when hunting and lack of movement is necessary!
Opti-Logic XT Series
I use an Opti-Logic XT series rangefinder. It is tilt compensated to calculate up or down hills. It is excellent for tree stands when hunting. Bit more accurate in measurements.
Thank you all very much as I am just beginning my 3D shooting experience this year and had no idea how to go about ranging my yardage. When I hunt I simply go around my stand and pick out landmarks that are 20 yards from it. What are the maximum distances that targets will be set up at tournaments? Thanks again to you all.
Here something I have learn to use for practicing judging distant. I got this from the Micheal Braden video and it works for me. Take rope 50 yards long, at 20 yards tie a rag( what every color you like) every 5 yards after that tie rags. Drag this rope around, then stop, turn around and look at the rags. Walk thru woods, uphills, down hills. This has helped me along. Also shooting indoor 5 spots Looking at 20 yards so much it becomes easy to find 20 yards if you see it so much. I hope this helps.
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